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From Peter Tristram 09/02/11 - "Those who get Die Bromelie will have seen the article on this new species from Guatemala in the recent issue. As it turns out, I got what appears to be it from Doettererís in 2006 indirectly via Renate Ehlers as an unknown hybrid. When I was in Germany in 2009, a few people were discussing a Doetterer plant with a tall pink and white spike that seemed to fit my plant foliage-wise. They were discussing parentage! When it began to bloom recently and having helped with the article, it started to dawn on me that this plant could be T. zacapanensis. I emailed Renate who confirmed the batch Doetterer had a few years back were T. zacapanensis. The ones in the article are much pinker on the whole though and I donít think this is conditions as the Germans have also flowered theirs with white branches. The plant has been compared with T. carlsoniae (a contentious translation though so that will be reprinted). In my experience itís seems a fairly dry and slow grower, liking warmth too. I hope it pups!"
|Peter Tristram 02/11.
||Peter Tristram 05/13. 2 clones.
||Stephen Haines 03/15
Peter Tristram...."Chris was lamenting that his zacapanensis needed a suntan. Mine are finally pushing out flowers. Being mid-winter I expect the colour will deepen as the light intensifies but they look pretty damned good as it is. You can see that the wet weather this year did some damage to the foliage (the ones under cover are fine, but not in bloom) so I would recommend a drier location, like with xerographica, for this species. At least I am sure they are 2 distinct clones so maybe I can set pure zacapanensis seed."
Derek Butcher ... "Chris: Both Renate and Eric consider zacapanensis and carrilloi synonymous.
|Chris Larson 03/16
||Chris Larson 03/16 carrilloi on left
Now for history. In 2010 we first saw zacapanensis published by the Guatemalans but in 2011 we saw this amended by Lotte and Renate. In 2013 we saw carrilloi published by the Guatemalans in an obscure journal (Could it be they did not want the Germans fiddling with it?) As as an aside Veliz was involved with both descriptions and he was the one who wrote the Guide to Guatemalan Tillandsias. You will find this in the DVD marked suspect because I feel it is full of anomalies.
In 2014 I received photos from my Thai friends of carrilloi which they had got from Guatemala and which did not fit the description of either carrilloi/zacapanensis. I smelt something fishy.
So all I can suggest is that when your carrilloi flowers you check it against the descriptions and then decide if the name is right."
Chris Larson ... "The first 2 photos are different T. zacapanensis in flower, or nearly. The one that has flowers (centre) has flowered a little small & has been in a darker position. The other (left) is beginning to colour.
The comparative shots were a bit blurry. Iíll redo the photos later and post them then.
These are the larger carrilloi (left) and the smaller zacapanensis (right) shown flowering now.